Batman: The Court of Owls (USA) di Scott Snyder & Greg Capullo

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Citazione di: marco_sanfy00 il 25 Maggio 2012, 09:01:18
>:( rivoglio Capullo...

Si tratta di un solo numero  :lol:
Tra l'altro questo non lo trovo male  :ahsisi:
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Citazione di: Barry Allen il 21 Maggio 2012, 13:59:55
esatto, è proprio per questo che hanno fatto questa divisione  :up: Night of The Owls è la seconda parte di questa maxisaga  :up:

Sì, ma si era detto che gli HC sarebbero stati realizzati senza spezzare le run, di fatto è successo il contrario già dal primo volume. Anche sulla rete viene "denunciata" questa cosa, ne metto una a caso:

The other problem is that this collection was released with only seven chapters. Much like The Black Mirror, The Court of Owls story is a long-form tale. As such, Volume 1 answers a few questions and resolves a limited number of thematic points, but ultimately there are more questions than answers when you close this book. In fact, it ends on a pretty huge cliffhanger. That's well and good for those of us that read the books monthly, but those that wait for trades often do so in order to get a complete story in one go – which you won't get here. That's not a knock against the story itself, but as a collected edition it might be frustrating to some.

Dalla recensione by IGN.com del primo HC del Batman di Snyder

Buddy Baker

Secondo me dipende da come gestiranno la Notte dei Gufi, se fanno un volume -o due- che contengono i numeri di Batman e quelli delle testate che fanno da tie in la cosa sarebbe più che giustificata.

Inoltre Snyder e Capullo hanno detto che lo storyarc sui gufi sarà di 12 numeri, quindi secondo me è normale che vengano fatti più volumi


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Bruce Wayne

Essendo una saga lunga, pubblicarlo in volume unico avrebbe fatto aumentare il prezzo. Inoltre avrebbe dovuto essere pubblicato molto più avanti, perdendo così di pubblicare ora uno dei volumi dei "New 52" più attesi. Hanno dovuto trovare un compromesso tra questo e il mantenere un volume autoconclusivo.

Bobby Drake

Citazione di: Buddy Baker il 25 Maggio 2012, 15:25:04
Secondo me dipende da come gestiranno la Notte dei Gufi, se fanno un volume -o due- che contengono i numeri di Batman e quelli delle testate che fanno da tie in la cosa sarebbe più che giustificata.

Inoltre Snyder e Capullo hanno detto che lo storyarc sui gufi sarà di 12 numeri, quindi secondo me è normale che vengano fatti più volumi

Non ricordo ora le dichiarazioni precise, ma DiDio e compagnia dissero che se ci volevano 3 albi per formare una run, L'Hc sarebbe stato di 3, se ne avesse richiesti 16 (per esempio) sarebbe stato un volumazzo da 16 numeri. Ma comunque va bene anche così, la collezione sarà più omogenea.

P.S. ho letto che nell'Annual ci sarà Mr. Freeze, una scelta non casuale visti i suoi "poteri" e la situazione attuale (nelle storie) di Gotham :batman:

Jonathan Crane

Forse già dal set avatar/firma potete tirare le vostre conclusioni su se mi sia piaciuto o meno questo primo story arc della Corte dei Gufi.

Tanto di cappello a Snyder e Capullo, che hanno imbastito una splendida trama. Se i primi tre numeri sono introduttivi ma belli comunque, i successivi quattro che compongono l'HC sono un crescendo verso alti livelli. Non so da dove Snyder abbia tirato fuori questa genialata, ma raramente ho visto Batman così in difficoltà contro dei villains che non hanno problemi ad accostarsi ai soliti noti. La Corte dei Gufi rapisce dal primo momento, è affascinante, misteriosa, pericolosa, una serie minaccia. Una goduria dall'inizio alla fine, iniziando con il sempre interessante passato di Gotham e della famiglia Wayne (e di Bruce in particolar modo) arrivando al labirinto della Corte dei Gufi dove non si può far altro che togliersi il cappello davanti a questo scrittore! Il volume si interrompe sul più bello (forse perché molti sarebbero svenuti per via del troppo godimento) ma rimane un ottimo volume, con ottime premesse per il futuro. Non vedo l'ora di leggere il seguito! Prendetelo senza se e senza ma!
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Azrael



Scott Snyder and James Tynion IV give us a new look at Mr. Freeze and help make him an even better Bat-Villain than he ever was before.
Batman has many classic villains. Mr. Freeze has always been a good villain but never a great one...until now.

The Good
When DC first announced that Scott Snyder would be getting his hands on Mr. Freeze, it seemed a bit of a strange choice for a villain in the first Batman Annual in the "New 52." Thinking about it for a bit, it made perfect sense. This was the time and opportunity to turn a good Batman villain into a great one. Mr. Freeze never had a definitive story that made him unforgettable. His best story was from Batman: The Animated Series. He deserved a better story and that's what Snyder has done. (Check out what Scott had to say about retooling Mr Freeze here).

Looking over the first page once again as I write this, I can honestly and truthfully say I just got a chill thinking about how this story ends. I'm being completely honest, no "chill out" puns here. Snyder wanted to make Freeze creepy. That's what we get. Originally he was just a dude that was in an accident that required him to be in cold temperatures. There's something about the calm and quite Victor we see in Arkham, moments before the Night of the Owls story hits. Freeze is not only creepy and deadly but we also are reminded that he's got some intelligence. Why is the Court of Owls after him? You'll find out and it makes perfect sense. It's a surprise no one brought it up before this.

There are some changes being made. Freeze isn't just going to be a cold and deadly lunatic. What he does, he does for a reason. Snyder brings us into his mind a bit. That little bit is more than enough to show us the potential he has. Without going into details, I will say that Nora is still a focus here but there is a tie to another character in Freeze's past. I can easily see some not approving this change but the way it all plays out is perfect. There's plenty of twists and turns here.

The Bad
I know I've offered a lot of praise for this issue but what really got me was the art. It's by no means bad. It's pretty good. It's just not great enough to blow me away. We've seen so many interpretations and comics with Batman by so many different artists. This art just felt like really good but average Batman art. For the annual and for the semi-reinvention of Mr. Freeze, I would've liked to have seen more. Perhaps I'm being a little over-critical but after seeing Greg Capullo, Rafael Albuquerque as well as Jock and Francesco Francavilla work with Snyder on BATMAN, my expectations are high.

The Verdict
In the "New 52" we've seen a few changes and updates with characters. Some haven't felt absolutely necessary but the changes Scott Snyder has brought to Mr. Freeze will change the way you look at him as a Batman Villain. Freeze never really had a true motive or reason for being a villain besides suffering from an accident and the story written in the animated series. I'm not normally one to cheer on changes and tweaks but Snyder gives Freeze what has been needed for a long time. As great as the story is, it's the art that prevents me from absolutely loving this issue. My expectations are high when it comes to Snyder/Batman issues and for this update with Freeze and the first new BATMAN ANNUAL #1, it should all be mind-blowing. The art is very good and fits the story well. I might be a little greedy in wanting more. We haven't seen many changes to the Batman characters in the "New 52" and Snyder shows us the advantages to being able to make these sort of updates. Mr. Freeze is now completely worthy of being a major villain in Batman's rogues gallery.

I've read many Batman annuals over the years. Many have been unremarkable. This Batman annual will be unforgettable.

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maricomics

Si sa se in italia uscira all'interno delle serie o faranno un volume a parte ?

Azrael



Nearly a year to the date of the massive DC Universe relaunch, "Batman Annual" #1 hits a pair of important connecting points in the Batman corner of the DCU in the form of the Court of Owls and the introduction of Mr. Freeze. Readers of the "Batman" series know that there was a possibility for connecting the two as the Talons were cryogenically preserved before being reanimated for battle.

Given that Freeze has already made an appearance in the "Night of the Owls" event prior to this issue, one might presume the Annual to be of little significance to the grander narrative of the "Night of Owls" event. That's not completely wrong, but to skip it would mean missing out on the details of the aforementioned connection as well as a creepier spin on the motivation and obsession of Victor Fries thanks to Scott Snyder and James Tynion IV. I've never been a big fan of Mr. Freeze (and that actually predates Arnold Schwarzenegger having anything to do with the character) as I mostly viewed him to be a lovesick borderline candidate for Arkham residency. This Annual, however, gives a completely different take on Freeze that makes him immediately more compelling and significantly more disturbed.

In addition to tying Freeze into the Court of the Owls, Snyder and Tynion sew Freeze's story thread more completely into the grander Bruce Wayne tapestry. This is the type of adjustment to continuity that makes for a more marketable character and certainly provides Freeze with better motivation than, "Bah! Batman has foiled me one time too many. I will destroy him."

Jason Fabok returns to the adventures of the Dark Knight Detective with this story and absolutely crushes the artwork. There are a couple shaky panels (literally, in thirty-eight pages, I found two panels) that require a more discerning study, but the greater collection of artwork is filled with emotional characters, pathos, stunning background details and dynamic figures that spring off of the page.

Peter Steigerwald's coloring is cold and icy blue throughout the entire issue. Naturally, that's to be expected with a villain such as Freeze at the center of attention, but what that does is thrusts the reds of Mr. Freeze's goggles and the blacks of Batman's uniform forward. The combination of Fabok's so-clean-you-could-eat-off-it linework and Stiegerwald's chilly coloring give this book a different feel than Greg Capullo has established in the monthly "Batman" series, which works to set "Batman Annual" #1 apart as its own story -- Mr. Freeze's story.

Fans who grew up with comic companies producing Annuals in the 1970s through the 1990s will remember the once-yearly comics to be big stories, the four-color equivalent to the summer blockbuster. The stories were grand. The art was impressive. Frequently those Annuals would either kick off a longer-form narrative to come in the main series or elaborate a character or concept that otherwise was not afforded the luxury on panel time. With this foray into the realm of Annuals, "Batman" latches onto all of those components and produces a great read that would certainly be a fantastic way to spend your lawn-mowing money.

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Letto ieri. Bellissimo! Riscrive le origini di Victor Fries in maniera intelligente, confermando ma rinnovando (senza stravolgerle) quelle post-Crisis. Snyder, in sostanza, rende Mr. Freeze folle e interessante come non mai, confermandosi come uno dei migliori scrittori in casa DC!
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