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Inferno Pits Mystique Against the X-Men in House of X/Powers of X Sequel

Jonathan Hickman, Valerio Schiti, R.B. Silva and Stefano Caselli's Inferno will pit Mystique against the X-Men in what's billed as a HoX/PoX sequel.

Marvel Comics shared the first details regarding the recently teased Inferno.

Inferno, by Jonathan Hickman, Valerio Schiti, R.B. Silva and Stefano Caselli, will pick up on plot threads that began in House of X and Powers of X involving Mystique. "I'm very excited that we're finally getting to share with everyone the follow-up to House of X/Powers of X," Hickman said. "The story is 160 pages over four issues drawn exquisitely by Valerio Schiti, R.B. Silva and Stefano Caselli. I cannot wait for people to read it."



INFERNO #1
Written by JONATHAN HICKMAN
Art by VALERIO SCHITI
Promotional Artwork by MARK BROOKS
Promises were made and broken. The rulers of Krakoa have been playing a dangerous game with a dangerous woman, and they are about to see how badly that can burn them. Having been denied her wishes yet again, Mystique is ready to follow through on her promise to burn the nation of Krakoa to the ground. Mutantkind's bright future is threatened like never before as Hickman brings his game-changing plans to a head. Fans can expect more revelations from the lives of Moira MacTaggert, Nimrod's revenge, vicious power plays, and more in this pivotal chapter in X-Men history. Throughout this four-issue limited series, Hickman will be joined by an incredible lineup of artists beginning with acclaimed illustrator Valerio Schiti. Known for masterfully depicting large-scale action alongside intense human drama, the S.W.O.R.D. and Empyre artist is perfect for bringing this heartbreaking saga to life.

Inferno #1, by Jonathan Hickman, Valerio Schiti, R.B. Silva and Stefano Caselli, goes on sale in September from Marvel Comics.


Hickmanone si muoverà finalmente un po' col plot? È praticamente da HoX/PoX che aspetto che succeda QUALCOSA di succoso. :zuzu:

Il primo Inferno mutante di X-Chris è stato molto speciale per me, ancora oggi uno dei miei X-crossovers preferiti di sempre! :wub:
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Clod

Good.
4 numeri? Peccato, speravo in una nuova serie, ma pazienza.

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We are called Cybermen. We were exactly like you once, but our cybernetic scientists realised that our race was getting weak. Our lifespan was getting shorter, so our scientists and doctors devised spare parts for our bodies until we could be almost completely replaced. Our brains are just like yours, except that certain weaknesses have been removed. Weaknesses like... emotions, pain. You will become like us. You will be upgraded.

Man of Steel

Immagino 4 numeri per scuotere lo status quo, poi da lì in poi partirà sicuramente una testata scritta da HiXman. :zuzu:
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But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

Clod

Chissà. Non sarebbe male, ma potrebbe anche chiudere le sue trame per occuparsi di altro.

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We are called Cybermen. We were exactly like you once, but our cybernetic scientists realised that our race was getting weak. Our lifespan was getting shorter, so our scientists and doctors devised spare parts for our bodies until we could be almost completely replaced. Our brains are just like yours, except that certain weaknesses have been removed. Weaknesses like... emotions, pain. You will become like us. You will be upgraded.

Man of Steel

Bon.
Non volevo essere io il primo a dirlo, ma anchio sto avendo le stesse impressioni e la cosa non mi piace per niente. :nono:

Non siamo mai arrivati al piatto forte, poi bho, spero di sbagliarmi, perché vorrei vedere tutta una serie di cose che solo Hickman saprebbe gestire bene, non mi fido del resto della ciurma.
We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

Clod

Purtroppo tra pandemia e conseguenze varie nell'industria fumettistica (non tutte imputabili al covid, comunque), qualche cambio nei piani c'è stato e non tutto è filato liscio.
L'importante è che i nodi vengano al pettine, per il resto lo status quo venutasi a creare continua a piacermi non poco.

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We are called Cybermen. We were exactly like you once, but our cybernetic scientists realised that our race was getting weak. Our lifespan was getting shorter, so our scientists and doctors devised spare parts for our bodies until we could be almost completely replaced. Our brains are just like yours, except that certain weaknesses have been removed. Weaknesses like... emotions, pain. You will become like us. You will be upgraded.

Man of Steel

Allora, le mie impressioni (e again, potrei sbagliarmi, ci spero proprio) sono che FORSE Hickmanone abbia...semplicemente perso la voglia, per diverse ragioni.

Anchio ho pensato al covid, anche se per come la vedo io, bene o male loro l'hanno gestita molto bene, non penso niente sia andato storto, l'unica conseguenza del covid è stata quella di allungare disgustosamente il crossover X of Swords, qualcosa che ha allontanato molti lettori e le vendite sono calate, ma questo era in parte dovuto anche al covid, quindi boh...

Poi un altro aneddoto probabilmente lo sanno solo coloro che seguivano Hickman su twitter, ma durante il periodo #BLM, ha fatto lo sbaglio di scrivere due righe e poi sono arrivati una mandria di cagacazzi cyberbullies che gli hanno rotto l'anima e portato ad abbandonare twitter...e ok che twitter sia un cancro, ma leggere i tweets di Hickman era uno spasso per me e mi è capitato molte volte di postarli anche qui sul forum se ricordate, mondo cane oh... :tsk:

Altra mia supposizione è che si sia lasciato un po' scoraggiare dall'enorme ambiziosità del suo progetto, qualcosa che richiede tempo, pazienza e sopratutto passione.

Lo status quo piace anche a me, ma è anche forse la cosa più facile da gestire e visto da lontano, senza entrare troppo nel dettaglio è anche uno status quo poco originale e qualcosa che abbiamo visto mille volte.
Non a caso, tutti gli altri X-writers bene o male se la stanno cavando benissimo anche senza di Hickman, basta guardare la mole delle varie ongoings...

Imho, non esiste proprio pensare di chiudere baracca e burattini in questo momento, cioè saranno passati 2 anni e qualcosa, ma in reatà hanno APPENA iniziato eh, questo non è il bello, perchè il bello doveva ANCORA arrivare, cosa di preciso non è facile da dire, visto che non si sono mai sbottonati troppo, ma leggendo i vari comics era chiaro che questo Dawn of X avrebbe avuto delle conseguenze negative su tutto il MU, io ironicamente parlavo di un World War X, non so nemmeno come intenda usare Moira, probabilmente come una villain che tradirà i mutanti se non anche gli umani/flatscans, ma per quanto tutte queste cose possano farmi gola io cercavo altro...

If you know....you know, tutto questo cazz di progetto era inizialmente nato come una storia DC, una sulla LOSH, è dannatamente chiaro ai miei occhi, la premessa iniziale che ha messo su per giù il Marvel Universe è forzatissimo, mentre fa da pendant al Lore DC, anyway...il GOAL finale ha assolutamente senso anche per quello Marvel, l'IP dei mutanti è bellissimo e potenzialmente ricco di...tutto, per puro caso nel corso degli anni sono andati a toccare ogni singolo angolo del Marvel Universe, uno potrebbe limitarsi a leggere i mutanti e vivere il MU a 360°, perchè trovi di tutto, magia, scienza, religione, whatever...

Quindi dopo le forzature iniziali, Hickman ha molto abilmente rielaborato il plot in salsa Marvel e ha sapientemente scavato a fondo nella continuity mutante, cercando di dare un senso a tutto e l'ha fatto alla grande, e QUESTO potrebbe veramente essere il piatto forte per me, qualcosa che a questo punto voglio leggerlo su queste pagine Marvel, perchè so bene che potrebbe tenersi queste idee e portarle alla DC, appunto sulla LOSH/New Gods, come fanno una marea di autori, anzi...a volte trovano vita su lavori creator owned...

La roba hard sci-fi in Powers of X #2, quando parla delle varie "Società" è sicuramente da nerdgasmo, ma cerco qualcosa di più.....cerco "la mano di Dio" che mette insieme i vari pezzi di questa macchina (Creato), quindi il mio percorso da lettore da...tipo COIE-Infinite Crisis-Blackest Night-Doomsday Clock. :lolle:

Poter avere qualcosa di paragonabile a Star Maker di Olaf Stapledon nei comics sarebbe bellissimo!


Quindi usare gli esseri umani>X-Men>gente come Warlock>Worldmind>fottuti Phalanx, beh... :sbav:

Per dire cosa poi?

We are all we've got! :dowson:

Scrivere una storia del genere in casa DC sarebbe molto più facile per un writer, per tutta una serie di ragioni, mentre alla Marvel...Hickman non ci ha messo molto a capire che sarebbe stato costretto ad usare dei "flashforward", linee temporali di un futuro passato ed è quello che ha fatto in HoX/PoX, ma nonostante tutto ciò, è comunque abbastanza difficile ritornare dai Phalanx agli X-Men (in tempo reale/del presente), impartire questa lezione al genere umano/mutanti e donare pace al mondo e terminare una volte per tutte (se ciao) questo conflitto fra umani e mutanti.
Quasi certamente sarà costretto ad usare una specie di reboot del Marvel Universe, ma uno dove i vari pg preservano i ricordi della loro vita passata, altrimenti sono condannati a ripetere gli stessi errori e già su questa cosa uno potrebbe scriverci una storia, lol.

Niente, mi sono lasciato andare. :lolle:

Spero di poter vedere tutte queste cose, though.
Poi non me ne frega niente se col prossimo team creativo tutte queste cose vanno a farsi benedire e si ritorna al solito vecchio status quo di sempre, perchè avere una Storia del genere vale tutto, potrebbe diventare LA mia X-Storia/Marvel storia preferita di sempre. :zuzu:
We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

Loki

Perché dite che Hickman potrebbe passare ad altro? Non avrebbe molto senso, con tutti gli elementi che ha messo in gioco c'è ancora tanta tanta tana ciccia da raccontare e solitamente è uno che pianifica con largo anticipo.
Questo poi a conti fatti è il suo primo X-evento, figuratevi se scopre tutte le carte.
Personalmente non aspettavo altro, è la volta buona dopo un fantastico world building si entra nel vivo della sua storia.

Ps: questa mini mi aspetto sia anche la rampa di lancio per la sua nuova serie regolare.

Man of Steel

Esatto, sarebbe proprio assurdo.

Nah, ma tranqui per ora, prendilo più come un mio gut-feeling merdoso, poi ho letto dei rumors strani, ma provenivano da sorgenti poco affidabili, but still...

Mi rendo conto che parlare di queste cose proprio nel topic in cui viene annunciata ALTRA roba scritta da Hickman non sia il massimo, ma ecco...se leggi la descrizione, il wording che hanno usato pare quasi annunciare "l'inzio della fine" ecco...
Poi magari loro la intendono come l'inizio della fine della Fase 1 di Hickman e il prologo di questa storia farà da epilogo ad un'altra e così via...
Speriamo bene! :pray:
We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

Clod

Neanch'io mi auguro sia il suo ultimo progetto, ma l'impressione di questa mini era questo. Vedremo...

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We are called Cybermen. We were exactly like you once, but our cybernetic scientists realised that our race was getting weak. Our lifespan was getting shorter, so our scientists and doctors devised spare parts for our bodies until we could be almost completely replaced. Our brains are just like yours, except that certain weaknesses have been removed. Weaknesses like... emotions, pain. You will become like us. You will be upgraded.

Man of Steel


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INFERNO #1 (OF 4)
JONATHAN HICKMAN (W) • VALERIO SCHITI (A) • Cover by Jerome Opeña
VARIANT COVER BY ARTGERM
VIRGIN VARIANT COVER BY ARTGERM
STORMBREAKERS VARIANT COVER BY CARMEN CARNERO
WRAPAROUND VARIANT COVER BY MARK BROOKS
VARIANT COVER BY JEFF DEKAL
VARIANT COVER BY OSCAR VEGA
VARIANT COVER BY PEACH MOMOKO
HOMAGE VARIANT COVER BY R.B. SILVA
HIDDEN GEM VARIANT COVER BY GREG CAPULLO
THE CULMINATION OF JONATHAN HICKMAN'S X-MEN BEGINS HERE!
"There will be an island—not the first, but the last..." Promises were made and broken. The rulers of Krakoa have been playing a dangerous game with a dangerous woman, and they are about to see how badly that can burn them. Mastermind of the X-Men JONATHAN HICKMAN brings his plans to a head, joined by an incredible lineup of artists beginning with VALERIO SCHITI... as one woman follows through on her promise to burn the nation of Krakoa to the ground.
56 PGS./Rated T+ ...$5.99

Lo sapevo... :nono:
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Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

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Number Six

Oh beh, ero indeciso se iniziare la sua run, ora che so che è così breve mi sa che parte il recupero. Alla fine con 4 numeri da 56 pagine si può raccontare molto, anche se non ho idea di cosa abbia imbastito Hickman fin qui avendo letto solo i primi due numeri di HoX/PoX.
Non importa quando. Non importa dove. Né quanto farà buio.

Man of Steel


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INFERNO #2 (OF 4)
JONATHAN HICKMAN (W)
STEFANO CASELLI (A)
Cover by Jerome Opeñ
VARIANT COVER BY PEACH MOMOKO
VARIANT COVER BY JEFF DEKAL
VARIANT COVER BY OSCAR VEGA
VARIANT COVER BY DAVID AJA
MARVEL MASTERPIECES VARIANT COVER BY JOE JUSKO
FEEL THE FIRE!
Secrets. Lies. They have a way of coming out and biting you when you least expect them. The secrets and lies of Krakoa will shake it to its foundation. Head of X Jonathan Hickman, continues a tale of consequences with one of his first Marvel collaborators, artist Stefano Caselli!
56 PGS./Rated T+ ...$5.99
We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

Man of Steel


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INFERNO #3 (OF 4)
JONATHAN HICKMAN (W) • R.B. SILVA (A)
Cover by JEROME OPEÑA
Stormbreaker Variant Cover by PEACH MOMOKO
VARIANT COVER BY RUSSELL DAUTERMAN
VARIANT COVER BY JEFF DEKAL
VARIANT COVER BY PEACH MOMOKO
VARIANT COVER BY OSCAR VEGA
Variant Cover by Giuseppe Camuncoli
NIMROD STRIKES!
Krakoa's troubles don't attack one at a time. Jonathan Hickman reunites with his
POWERS OF X collaborator R.B. Silva for the penultimate chapter of his X-Swan Song.
56 PGS./Rated T+ ...$5.99

Sono solo 4 numeri e dalla cover/solicits ho già visto troppe cose interessanti legate ad HoX/PoX...

Madre di Rao, spero col tutto il cuore che Hickmanone non abbia scritto questa mini di fretta... :ehm:
Grande hype tho, la cosa più badass delle Big 2....a mani basse!
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But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

Man of Steel

Jonathan Hickman Talks 'Inferno,' Comic Book Spoilers and What Comes Next
CitazioneAIPT: Welcome back to X-Men Monday, Jonathan! X-Fans GraySkull and Sho Sternlicht wanted to know, what made you choose the iconic "Inferno" name for your final story?

Jonathan:
Well, let's be honest, it's a very cool name. It's also appropriate as we're setting a lot of things on fire, so, you know, fire in the disco, fire in the gates of hell.

AIPT: I feel like X-Fans have a pretty good sense as to why Xavier and Magneto are in Mystique's crosshairs, but for all the fans who asked (shout-out to X-Fans Claire and Mel), what can you tease about Emma Frost's role in Inferno?

Jonathan:
I think that it's a mistake to assume anyone is on any particular side forever. I mean, part of what we've done is presented the idea of the Nation of Krakoa being monolithic and a higher cause that all mutants submit their personal one's to. Mystique is interesting because she's the one who's really pushed against the idea of that, for love, if you can believe it. And Emma's interesting because she bought in when we thought she might not, and was it 'one more time' or 'one last time?'

All of this stuff is grist for the mill, but these questions are hard ones and they've been coming for a while.

AIPT: X-Fan Juancho believes that Moira is perhaps the most fascinating character in comics right now. All the pain and suffering she's endured for hundreds of years, all to end in mutants continuing to lose. So, Juancho's question is: After Moira was burned by Pyro and up to Life X, do you think there was a moment where she was actually happy?

Jonathan:
No.

AIPT: Haha, perfect. In your X-Men run, what made you want to make it an anthology series centering around Cyclops and his family?

Jonathan:
I dig the whole Summers clan, but the original idea behind the book was kind of a travelogue for Krakoa, with Cyclops being our guide. It was supposed to just be 12 issues and very different when it was first planned out, and that obviously changed a lot by the time I got to write issue one.

A big thing that I really regret not getting to try was how we wanted to execute the launch of the entire X-Line. My initial idea was to use the X-Men title as a springboard for the other books. So, X-Men #1 would have been about the Hellfire Trading Company and then we would have launched Marauders two weeks later. Then two weeks after Marauders #1, and because of the complications introduced in that story, X-Men #2 would have been about the need for a mutant CIA, and then we would have launched X-Force #1 two weeks after that...

And on and on for the entire line.

The thinking behind this was, sure, number one issues are already really, really tricky, and this would be a cool cheat code for that, but these new titles had even heavier lifting to do than normal because they were introducing concepts, characters, and themes, against a backdrop that unfamiliarized familiar titles.

Those plans changed for a lot of very good reasons — including bandwidth and time — but

it's definitely an experiment that we need to do at some point because I think it might be a super effective way to launch an entire line in a really streamlined manner.

I guess we'll see.

AIPT: I feel like there are so many X-Fans who crave spoilers. It was on full display in the questions I received for this edition. They seem to constantly want to know what happened or what's going to happen next — or just have everything spelled out for them so there's only one, definitive interpretation of events. I think it's safe to say the X-Men line became a lot more mysterious while you worked on the books. You didn't do many interviews and previews were often two pages (if that) compared to other Marvel previews. I know you spoke about this in a recent newsletter — the desire to bring back the element of surprise to comics. Based on your time with the line, do you feel like X-Men comics, where fan speculation and theories are just baked into the experience, benefit from a sense of mystery?

Jonathan:
Just to be clear, if I had my way, there would be no previews of anything ever, no cover reveals, no review copies, and no embargoed coverage.

This is especially true at the page count and price that we're charging. It's just a bad transaction that robs readers of joy and kills the fun of actually telling stories.

I've tried to sell us just lying about everything when we solicit and market stuff, but something something about fraud and constipated lawyers but what do these people expect, I get paid to lie for a living.

Let me do my job.

Anyway, of course it makes things exciting. It's why you wrap the presents instead of just sitting them under the tree.

AIPT: Dave (Comic Book Herald) was wondering if your new Marvel projects connect to the work you've done on X-Men in any way. Or will they be something completely different?

Jonathan:
It's probably too early to talk about my next thing. Especially in any way that would answer your question in a satisfying manner, but it's definitely not X-related. In fact, unless I come back into the office to do something later on, I'll intentionally steer clear of doing 'mutant stuff.'

At best it would feel like commentary, and at worst something like that would probably read as me 'writing over' everyone. And that, obviously, doesn't interest me at all.

AIPT: Finally, KingdomX asked, throughout your X-Men run, is there a character or characters you gained a newfound appreciation for?

Jonathan:
I've said this quite a few places, but the X-Men is pretty much the Marvel that I read when I was a kid. Everything else was DC. So, in the decade that I've been doing Marvel work (and excluding obvious cheats like sticking Bobby and Sam in Avengers), this was the first time I've gotten a crack at these characters I really love.

I knew I would hit the Magneto stuff pretty hard, and that was fun. In fact, the entirety of the Council was a great time. So many great characters on there.

I guess the answer's probably Apocalypse, though. That was a surprise. You put Xavier and Magneto in a room, and outside of Emma, you expect them to eat all the candy, but nope. It was the blue guy.
https://aiptcomics.com/2021/08/30/x-men-monday-123-jonathan-hickman/

E la domanda/risposta più interessante:
CitazioneAIPT: Looking ahead, does what comes next for the X-Line have your fingerprints on it in any way? Or was your job very much focusing on Inferno and queuing the rest of the X-Slack up for success?

Jonathan:
Pretty much the last thing I'll be doing in the office is a big three-day X-Summit that's the precursor to us presenting Marvel with what the next few years looks like. I'm sure we'll be answering questions the company might have about the storytelling choices the group is making, but that will be easy to do in this case because we've been individually working on this for a while. The summit is where we'll be taking everything that everyone has planned, integrate that with the bigger ideas regarding the direction of the line, seeing how it all lines up, and then making sure it has some kind of structure and rhythm.

It's all in very good shape. I'm sure I'll feel even stronger about that after the summit.

As for 'fingerprints', you know, what I'm adding right now are just plans and ideas. Some framework. Some cool hooks. A few character beats. Things like that. But the books that will come out after I'm gone are where this stuff will live — where it will matter. I've gotten both too much credit and too much blame over the last couple of years we've been doing this. I don't mind the blame, I do mind the credit. Which is always unfair. Especially
in this sense. When I'll be out the room when the stuff is being produced. I dunno, man, spread the love, right?

Senza Hickman per ANNI (plurale) chissà quanti...

A Lifelong Mistake. :nono:

Qualche artwork:


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We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.