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Aperto da Man of Steel, 23 Marzo 2019, 22:34:20

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Catcher

Sto valutando i miei acquisti futuri in fumetteria e sono molto indecisa se prendere o meno queste due mini. Dopo di esse ci saranno quasi certamente una o più ongoing e tutta una serie di eventi collegati che mi costringeranno a dover comprare altre serie. O meglio, me lo posso immaginare, perché per ora nessuno lo sa.
Se così fosse diventerebbe troppo impegnativo da seguire

Jacopo


Man of Steel

Marvel and Jonathan Hickman Unveil Plans for 'Whole New Era' of X-Men

CitazioneSo, you're back at Marvel? How'd that happen?

Jonathan Hickman: Well, I was sitting in a LA hotel room a year-and-a-half ago and I got a call from Dan Buckley asking me to consider holding on some other projects until he had a chance to make me an offer. I, of course, said 'of course' as both he and Marvel have been good to me over the years.

So, we got on the phone and talked about a lot of things: What I'd like to do if I came back, what he'd like for me to do, and some vertically-integrated opportunities at the company that were not available when I was there last.

And then, he basically told me that my mandate if I came back would be to just 'try things.' Which on top of everything he'd already said made it a pretty attractive proposition.

Obviously, I accepted.

And this led to X-Men?

JH: Yeah. I mean, I threw out quite a few ideas I had for other books, but X-Men was the bigger, more timely, idea. It was certainly the one I was most excited about.

So, I thought about what I wanted to do, and more importantly, what I thought the line needed, and then I flew up to the Marvel offices and pitched all of senior editorial what I had in mind. We met for a while, fought a little bit, then I went back home and polished everything up, and then, about a year ago, I presented the entirety of it at a Marvel retreat. Which went well.

We have been working hard on it ever since then.

Did you always want to introduce this next era for the X-Men with House of X and Powers of X? How did this idea start for you?

JH: Okay, so, for the most part, I don't believe incrementalism works in fictional universes, and that, I think, is why almost every big franchise change that occurs has a delineated starting point. I mean, it does work, which is why the industry often abuses it as a sales tactic.

And in the spirit of 'what works' and also 'what the market is used to', I didn't feel like just doing a new number one was enough. I also didn't think that if we were serious about what we were trying to do we should have a mixed message in the market about what an X-book is.

So I argued for cancelling the entire line: Why it would work, why it was a good idea, and most importantly, why it was what we needed to do narratively to return the X-Men to their rightful prominent position in the Marvel Universe.

We needed to sell the idea that this is what we're going to be doing for the next few years. So if you want to read X-Men books during the run from late-July through September, House of X and Powers of X are the only new X-books available and everything that's going to follow is based on them. We wanted to be clear to the fans, to the stores, and just as importantly, to the creators who are going to be staffing these books in the future. We wanted the message to be very clear: This is a whole new era for the X-Men. This is what we're doing now.

And so, POX and HOX is how we're starting. It's a solid plan, I think.

You've said that fans will need to pick up both House of X and Powers of X to get the full story. Can you go into any more detail on how they relate? Why two six-issue series instead of one 12-issue series?

Well, there's a practical element to all this, which is we only wanted one artist on each series. And based on the timeline, that wouldn't be possible with a higher issue count because we only had, roughly, a nine-month production window. So in my head, one single narrative was never an option.

But honestly, that really never was a concern because, in the same manner as when I was working on FF/F4 and Avengers/New Avengers, the format is basically two stories about one story.

One, House of X, is a story about a pivotal month in the history of the X-men where everything changes for mutants on Earth. And the other, Powers of X, is a story about the history of mutants in the Marvel Universe. It works as a series of reveals and revelations where each issue of HOX that follows POX -- and vice versa -- makes you reinterpret the issue you had previously read.

And then, obviously, at the end they crash together in a way that propels us forward into a new X-Universe.

What should fans expect from these two series?

JH: Big X-Men things. Some cool new ideas. A lot of your favorite mutants. Definitely some killer art, as Pepe and R.B. are doing an incredible job.

How prominent is the mutant metaphor in your take on the X-Men? Is that something you're leaning into, or are you leaning more towards to sci-fi elements of the X-Men's mythology?

JH: If by 'sci-fi elements' you mean some basic evolutionary biology, a little genetic homogeny, a lot of contact linguistics or, you know, how mutants bend the Kardashev scale, then sure. We'll be doing all that stuff.

As to the other, I'm not sure how you get away from doing metaphor when you're writing X-books. I suppose that, narratively, the problem nowadays is interpretation. Are we talking about a stand-in for marginalized groups, or the metaphor simply being a substitution of the word 'different' for 'special', or is the real modern complication atomization? Where everything is segmented to such a degree that there are no stories which mean something to everyone. Where the psychological expectation is something catered, or personalized.

I suspect that last bit also has a lot to do with why we've been in a nostalgic feedback loop for quite a while. Where everyone is telling X-Men stories about other X-Men stories.

With all that in mind, I think I have a pretty good idea of how to move all of this forward. Hopefully I'll get it right.

While we know you can't share too much, can you share any details around this new direction of what's happening in the X-Universe? Are there plans after House of X and Powers of X?

JH: At the conclusion of our 12 weeks of HOX and POX, we'll be launching an entire new universe of X-books. Some will be traditional fare, some carry through on ideas presented in HOX and POX. Some books are completely new concepts. I, personally, will be writing the ongoing flagship X-book.

Now, we're already in production on all of these 'Wave 1' books and our plan at this moment is to introduce the titles, creative teams, and publishing details around SDCC, which is a week before HOX #1 goes on sale.

We also just finished our plans for our 'Wave 2' books that will debut in 2020 and we're getting ready to hire talent for those.

It's pretty exciting, and this kind of long-term planning is one of the benefits of knowing what direction you're headed for the next few years.

Throughout their history, the X-Men have been depicted varying as a superhero team, a family, a school faculty, outlaws, and mutant law enforcement. How do you describe your version of the X-Men?

JH: Oh, I think the X-Men is about finding the family that you never knew you had. One that accepts you for who you are, who loves you at your best and worst, and who shares your dreams for what the world can be.

You know, everybody wants to love somebody, everyone wants to be loved, and it's pretty great when you find both. Especially if you're, say, a weirdo mutant with eyeballs covering your whole body.

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But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

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Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Protector of the Realm, Lady Regnant of the Seven Kingdoms,
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Leonard13

Grandi cose all'orizzonte e grandi aspettative :ahsisi:
"Le Meraviglie sono qui per restare. E ce ne sono sempre di più. Citizen V, la Trottola, Blue Diamond... Se volessi, potrei continuare ad aspettare, ma questo fermerebbe solo me, non loro. E la cosa che vidi quando fui su quel palazzo e quell'onda iniziò a infrangersi intorno a me è che non saranno loro ad adattarsi a noi. Ormai il mondo è diverso. Le regole sono cambiate. Per sempre. E nessuno ha idea di cosa ci riserverà il futuro. Però la sai una cosa? Scoprirlo sarà un gran divertimento!"
Marvels,Kurt Busiek.

"Stai cominciando a capire, Clark, questa è la fine, per tutti e due. Avremmo potuto cambiare il mondo, e ora guardaci. Io sono diventato un problema politico, e tu... tu sei una barzelletta. Voglio che ricordi, Clark, negli anni che verranno, nei tuoi momenti più intimi, voglio che ricordi la mia mano, attorno alla tua gola, voglio che ricordi... l'unico uomo che ti ha battuto."
Il Ritono Del Cavaliere Oscuro,Frank Miller.

"E io...gli ho mostrato,che un uomo senza speranza è un uomo senza paura."
Devil Rinascita,Frank Miller.

Loki

Sostanzialmente le parole che ogni X-fan sognava di sentire. Hype della madonna :ahsisi:

Clod

Citazione di: Man of Steel il 14 Maggio 2019, 19:05:32

JH: At the conclusion of our 12 weeks of HOX and POX, we'll be launching an entire new universe of X-books. Some will be traditional fare, some carry through on ideas presented in HOX and POX. Some books are completely new concepts. I, personally, will be writing the ongoing flagship X-book.
proprio ciò che mi interessava :ahsisi:

We are called Cybermen. We were exactly like you once, but our cybernetic scientists realised that our race was getting weak. Our lifespan was getting shorter, so our scientists and doctors devised spare parts for our bodies until we could be almost completely replaced. Our brains are just like yours, except that certain weaknesses have been removed. Weaknesses like... emotions, pain. You will become like us. You will be upgraded.

No Use For A Name

Si poteva immaginare, era ovvio che non avrebbe scritto solamente queste due mini.
"I am Daenerys of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men,
Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Protector of the Realm, Lady Regnant of the Seven Kingdoms,
Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons"

Man of Steel

Hickman sa il fatto suo, leggete bene le sue parole, damn. :sisi:
È uno di quei pochi writer alla Marvel con le palle e lo dico perchè...lol, si era messo a smerdare la Marvel e il modo in cui trattavano i mutanti e F4 quando stavano ancora pushando gli Inumani, 0 ongoing sui F4 ecc... solo perchè avevano le palle girate per via della Fox o quello che è...
Ora non si è fatto troppi problemi a criticare il modus operandi di alcune case *cough* specialmente la Marvel *cough*.
Da un certo lato mi ricorda anche Geoff durante DClock, solo che...Geoff non voleva mini, tie-ins, maxis, one-shots ecc...
Mentre Hickman sta puntando a quello.

Però ci sta eh, DClock è un'altra bestia, mentre con gli X-Men si parla di varie testate, ma lo spirito dietro le loro iniziative pare sia lo stesso, infatti chiuderanno tutto il resto, e io non ho problemi, anzi...adieu Rosenberg! :dok:
We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

No Use For A Name

CitazioneYes, this has all been planned since last summer and we're grateful for every creator who has worked on our X-titles since then, from X-Men Blue/Yellow/Red to Disassembled to Age of X to Major X to Uncanny. They have all been putting the pieces of the puzzle in place for HoX/PoX!


Sembra che tutte le serie fin'ora uscite, da Gold in poi, siano state scritte per portare il tutto alle due di Hickman.
"I am Daenerys of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men,
Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Protector of the Realm, Lady Regnant of the Seven Kingdoms,
Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons"

Man of Steel

Heh, lo dico da una vita, hanno forzato disgustosamente un back-to-basic, arrivare qua in questo modo, seppur ci sia Hickman, non è il massimo eh...
Cioè ma sapete QUANTE tipologie di storie potevano raccontare con i big guys?
Invece no, ritorna in vita Jean, poi ritorna Xavier, poi Logan, Madrox e pure Scott, tutto questo in pochissimo tempo e non ti danno il tempo di goderti quei momenti appieno!
Muore Rightclops, buttiamo nel cesso tutti i filmini che si è fatto un X-fan per ANNI dopo la morte di Logan, ma anche dopo AvX per dire, poi Death of X.
Ritornano questi pg e lanciano Age of X-Man, vabbo, Logan e Scott ancora devono incontrare tutti gli altri, ma ormai è fatta, fa schifo.
Voltiamo pagina e facciamo finta che non sia successo niente per...per chissà quanti anni, va... <_<
We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

No Use For A Name

Vogliono fare ciò che stanno facendo alla DC con Doomsday Clock ed i N52. :ahsisi:
"I am Daenerys of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men,
Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Protector of the Realm, Lady Regnant of the Seven Kingdoms,
Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons"

Man of Steel

Eeermm....DClock e New 52 nella stessa frase è un ossimoro! :lolle:

Comunque naah, era questione di tempo, ma sarebbero comunque finiti qua, onestamente il primo esempio che mi viene in mente è propri legato all'ultima season di GoT.
Ci sta che abbiano fatto quello che hanno fatto, ma hanno bruciato un sacco di tappe, non hanno giustificato certe scelte, e l'esecuzioni di moltissimi plot point lascia molto a desiderare...
Però ripeto, la meta finale è sempre stata questa.
Dispiace aver buttato nel cesso anni e anni di build-ups, altro che 7 stagioni di GoT, qua si parla di...non lo so, potrei tornare indietro solo fino alla saga del Messia, oppure la gestione di Morry se non proprio God loves, Man kills di Claremont.
Perchè si parla dell'evoluzione di Scott, il conflitto con Logan, i segreti/piani e la visione di uno come Xavier, JEAN e tanto altro...
Vabbe, più ci penso e più la cosa mi rende triste quindi baaaasta. :lolle:
We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

No Use For A Name

Nel senso che verrà cancellato, dimenticato tutto ciò che è stato fatto fin'ora.
Con DC, vengono sistemate le cagate combinate nel reboot, ma il concetto mi pare lo stesso.
"I am Daenerys of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men,
Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Protector of the Realm, Lady Regnant of the Seven Kingdoms,
Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons"

HCPunk

Gente qua ne vien fuori qualcosa di enorme!  :ahsisi:
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