Batman: The Court of Owls (USA) di Scott Snyder & Greg Capullo

Aperto da Azrael, 30 Agosto 2011, 10:14:53

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Man of Steel

Sarò onesto,di questo numero zero mi è piaciuto di piu la back up rispetto a quello che ha scritto Snyder...
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Shimamura81

Hi ragione, davvero interessante la storiella di chiusura, quasi meglio della storia principale, vuoi perché questa finisce con un dannato: continua nel 2013  :hmm:

overminder78

letto: una mezza delusione...
mi spiego meglio: bellissima storia e disegni strepitosi (Capullo mi piace un sacco!!!), ma ho atteso tanto questo Zero Month aspettandomi che chiarissero i collegamenti tra la vecchia e la nuova continuity e invece..
è stato detto più volte che questi num. 0 si inserivano tra le pieghe di Anno Uno ma
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Shimamura81

Batman è il personaggio più controverso del reboot, dal miomento che la sua continuity non è stata cancellata, ma poi scopri, come nota overminder, che comunque molti aspetti vengono riscritti... Cmq concordo con te sull'interpretazione dell'identita di cappuccio rosso.

Green Hankey

 il continuo della storia di Cappuccio Rosso la vedremo nel 2013..........

comunque per me numero bellissimo, ma a me ad esempio non frega niente della continuity, quindi non ho problemi di sorta  :lolle:
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Azrael



Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo's "Batman" #0 gives a peek at pre-Batman Bruce Wayne and wisely shows something entirely new, rather than just a revised spin on old favorites tropes.

While Snyder easily could have gone to the familiar well with Bruce -- his inspiration by bats to become "a Bat," the pearls in the street, etc. -- he opts instead to show us something that would be completely mundane, if it wasn't also a little bit horrifying. This is Scott Snyder, the man knows his horror!

The issue features a young Bruce Wayne six years before becoming Batman trying to fight crime and do good, simply as himself (though still in disguise). Bruce has infiltrated the Red Hood Gang to try to stop a bank robbery and murder spree. However, the entire adventure ends horribly and Bruce is massively unsuccessful. Snyder gives Bruce some fascinating layers as both a character and a superhero. While reading this story, it's easy to see why Bruce would eventually become a perfectionist and kind of -- let's face it -- "a dick" when he cut his teeth as an amateur detective the hard way, resulting in absolute tragedy when he underestimated his opponents.

It's solid nuanced stuff, and exactly the kind of backstory resonance Bruce can (and should) have as a character, but that we rarely see. Snyder also smartly integrates the horror with some cool stuff, like Bruce testing out and developing some of the weapons we're so familiar with today and an in-depth conversation between Bruce and Jim Gordon. It's all fun and lends a nice weight and significance to Snyder's "Batman" run in this re-launched universe.

Greg Capullo's work is strong, as it has been throughout the last year. The art feels slightly rushed in places, but on the whole Capullo has a great grasp of the characters and draws an interesting Bruce. I will never understand, or enjoy, the Red Hood's ridiculous helmet, but that's hardly Mr. Capullo's fault!

The eight-page back-up story "Tomorrow" by James Tynion IV and Andy Clarke is excellent. The fact that Tynion and Clark manage to include emotionally resonant moments for a young Barbara Gordon, along with three Robins (Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake) in so little space is no small feat. The reveal for Barbara packed a particularly potent punch.

Quite frankly, the biggest problem with this comic book is simply that these two stories, while thematically wonderfully tied together, are a bit confusing to read one after the other. Both stories present similar powerful themes -- that of young superheroes before they became superheroes, a look at supeheroes in process, if you will. However, time wise it's very confusing to read them one after another, especially with the already convoluted new continuity that is the New 52.

In Tynion's story, Gordon sets up the Bat Signal, which is what ultimately creates the spark that inspires each of these young superheroes. However, Snyder's main story takes place before Bruce becomes the Dark Knight -- he hasn't yet become inspired by the bat imagery, in fact. So when read one right after another, it's confusing. It's a real shame because ultimately the strengths of these stories lies in how linked they are thematically for these excellent characters, but that same strength ends up being their undoing as it creates confusion about timing and continuity.

However, if you can clearly separate the main story from the back up story, you're in for a treat. Both, on the whole, are very strong. Their only significant flaw is they don't work as well together as I'd like. Perhaps after reading Synder's story set the book down, have a sandwich and come back later to read Tynion's back-up. Both deserve high-praise individually, regardless of being a bit confusing when paired together.

4/5


CBR
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Matches Malone

Anche tynion è molto bravo, non sfigura affatto.
Ormai per me su Batman c'è uno dei team migliori di sempre. Dallo scrittore al disegnatore all'inker al colorista, c'è un'intesa perfetta e si vede.

Owlman

Citazione di: Il Cavaliere Oscuro il 14 Settembre 2012, 00:40:08


Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo's "Batman" #0 gives a peek at pre-Batman Bruce Wayne and wisely shows something entirely new, rather than just a revised spin on old favorites tropes.

While Snyder easily could have gone to the familiar well with Bruce -- his inspiration by bats to become "a Bat," the pearls in the street, etc. -- he opts instead to show us something that would be completely mundane, if it wasn't also a little bit horrifying. This is Scott Snyder, the man knows his horror!

The issue features a young Bruce Wayne six years before becoming Batman trying to fight crime and do good, simply as himself (though still in disguise). Bruce has infiltrated the Red Hood Gang to try to stop a bank robbery and murder spree. However, the entire adventure ends horribly and Bruce is massively unsuccessful. Snyder gives Bruce some fascinating layers as both a character and a superhero. While reading this story, it's easy to see why Bruce would eventually become a perfectionist and kind of -- let's face it -- "a dick" when he cut his teeth as an amateur detective the hard way, resulting in absolute tragedy when he underestimated his opponents.

It's solid nuanced stuff, and exactly the kind of backstory resonance Bruce can (and should) have as a character, but that we rarely see. Snyder also smartly integrates the horror with some cool stuff, like Bruce testing out and developing some of the weapons we're so familiar with today and an in-depth conversation between Bruce and Jim Gordon. It's all fun and lends a nice weight and significance to Snyder's "Batman" run in this re-launched universe.

Greg Capullo's work is strong, as it has been throughout the last year. The art feels slightly rushed in places, but on the whole Capullo has a great grasp of the characters and draws an interesting Bruce. I will never understand, or enjoy, the Red Hood's ridiculous helmet, but that's hardly Mr. Capullo's fault!

The eight-page back-up story "Tomorrow" by James Tynion IV and Andy Clarke is excellent. The fact that Tynion and Clark manage to include emotionally resonant moments for a young Barbara Gordon, along with three Robins (Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake) in so little space is no small feat. The reveal for Barbara packed a particularly potent punch.

Quite frankly, the biggest problem with this comic book is simply that these two stories, while thematically wonderfully tied together, are a bit confusing to read one after the other. Both stories present similar powerful themes -- that of young superheroes before they became superheroes, a look at supeheroes in process, if you will. However, time wise it's very confusing to read them one after another, especially with the already convoluted new continuity that is the New 52.

In Tynion's story, Gordon sets up the Bat Signal, which is what ultimately creates the spark that inspires each of these young superheroes. However, Snyder's main story takes place before Bruce becomes the Dark Knight -- he hasn't yet become inspired by the bat imagery, in fact. So when read one right after another, it's confusing. It's a real shame because ultimately the strengths of these stories lies in how linked they are thematically for these excellent characters, but that same strength ends up being their undoing as it creates confusion about timing and continuity.

However, if you can clearly separate the main story from the back up story, you're in for a treat. Both, on the whole, are very strong. Their only significant flaw is they don't work as well together as I'd like. Perhaps after reading Synder's story set the book down, have a sandwich and come back later to read Tynion's back-up. Both deserve high-praise individually, regardless of being a bit confusing when paired together.

4/5


CBR

Cosa intendono per numero 0? devo preoccuparmi?

Selina Kyle

Tranquillo, sono numeri speciali che ridefiniscono le nuove origini dei personaggi a un anno dal reboot. :D Usciranno per tutte le collane, a settembre.  :batwoman:
E anche io lessi il numero 0, finalmente! Ho gradito più la parte
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che quella di Snyder, vi dico solo questo.  :lol:

Bello bello, "semplice" ma inquadra benissimo il personaggio.


Una mela al giorno...

Azrael



BATMAN #15
Written by SCOTT SNYDER
Backup story written by SCOTT SNYDER and JAMES TYNION IV
Art by GREG CAPULLO and JONATHAN GLAPION
Backup story art by JOCK
Cover by GREG CAPULLO
Variant cover by GREG CAPULLO
1:100 B&W Variant cover by GREG CAPULLO
On sale DECEMBER 12 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US • RATED T
Combo pack edition: $4.99 US
Retailers: This issue will ship with four covers. Please see the order form for more information.
• "DEATH OF THE FAMILY" continues here!
• The Joker's attacks have taken their toll on Batman and his allies, and now they have to face the impossible.
• The final madness of The Joker's plan revealed here! Why is he more dangerous now than ever before?
• Plus: In the backup feature, witness The Joker's confrontation with the Riddler as the horror of The Joker's plan is revealed.
This issue is also offered as a combo pack edition with a redemption code for a digital download of this issue.
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#1166
Questa cover mi sembra familiare! :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:


EDIT: ispirata ad Detective  Comics 457 :sisi: :sisi: :dyo:
We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

Shimamura81

Citazione di: the crusader of night il 18 Settembre 2012, 10:45:44
Questa cover mi sembra familiare! :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:


EDIT: ispirata ad Detective  Comics 457 :sisi: :sisi: :dyo:

Sì, se non ricordo male, ma non vorrei dire boiate4, trattavasi del volume in cui appariva per la prima volta Leslie Thompkins...

Man of Steel

We're all searching for enlightenment.
But what is light?
Different for everyone. But everyone looking.

See what we want to see.
No matter how small...or big we are.

Shimamura81

Il che non vorrei (o forse sì?) che possa essere un'indizio  sull'identità dell'eventuale "vittima" di questa Death on the Family...  :(