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Green Arrow (USA) di Krul, Giffen & Nocenti

Aperto da Azrael, 06 Settembre 2011, 16:46:31

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Eingya

aspettate di vedere il mio sfogo sul video del reboot dc che sto preparando

urlando "comprate questo, non quella merda del reboot" mentre tengo in mano Anno uno xD

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GREEN ARROW #6
Written by KEITH GIFFEN and DAN JURGENS
Art by IGNACIO CALERO and RAY McCARTHY
Cover by HOWARD PORTER and RAY McCARTHY
On sale FEBRUARY 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T
The secret of Blood Rose revealed! The mystery woman plaguing Green Arrow's life is exposed, but the shocker isn't who she is – it's what she is! Plus: The final battle with Midas, the monstrous half-man whose touch can melt anything – including Green Arrow!
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Eingya

Citazione di: Azrael il 15 Novembre 2011, 00:03:31


GREEN ARROW #6
Written by KEITH GIFFEN and DAN JURGENS
Art by IGNACIO CALERO and RAY McCARTHY
Cover by HOWARD PORTER and RAY McCARTHY
On sale FEBRUARY 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T
The secret of Blood Rose revealed! The mystery woman plaguing Green Arrow's life is exposed, but the shocker isn't who she is – it's what she is! Plus: The final battle with Midas, the monstrous half-man whose touch can melt anything – including Green Arrow!

per quanto adori Jurgens questo freccia verde continua a sembrarmi una cagata pazzesca

Occhi nella Notte

Credo che questa sia una della serie del rilancio che più tocca il fondo.
Veramente peccato perchè per un personaggio come questo, il rilancio era veramente una grandissima occasione.
Invece mi sembra che le cose procedano peggio di prima e sapere che la Nocenti sia la prossima a scriverlo non mi lascia tranquillo per nulla, visto che (almeno per quanto mi riguarda) con Devil mi aveva fatto dormire...
Io speravo in un riammodernamento del personaggio. Un occasione per toglierlo da contesti ridicoli.
Invece è sempre peggio.
Peccato.

Spero che un giorno anche Green Arrow possa avere degli scrittori, che anche se non star, possano entrare veramente in sintonia con lui e proporre materiale fresco e originale

Solo quando l'ultimo campo sara' sporcato,
l'ultimo fiume inquinato, l'ultimo animale avvelenato e l'ultimo albero abbattuto
che gli uomini capiranno che non possono mangiare i soldi.

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mar-vell

Non ho letto le storie ma cos'è la storia di Ollie ragazzino?
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Clod

#65
niente, in generale col reboot alcuni eroi hanno subito un certo ringiovanimento (benchè per alcuni le storie siano ambientate qualche anno o mese prima il presente attuale)
solo che GA è finito per diventare un ragazzino (un po'alla Smallville, mi pare di capire) che pare non aver niente a che fare con l'Ollie liberale, cinico e per cui siam abituati
poi non so se anche queste siano ambientate nel presente o prima, non seguo la serie

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Buddy Baker

È ambientata nel presente, il mio giudizio l'ho espresso più volte, mi limito a ribadire il dispiacere per l'occasione persa, e aggiungo solo che anche in questa continuity Roy è stato la spalla di Ollie


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Green Hankey

devo dire che numeri 2-3 mi sono piaciuti, ma attendo con impazienza l'arrivo della Nocenti (lo story arc di Giffen & Jurgens è breve)
I've got new kidneys. I don't like the colour.

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Ann Nocenti e la visione che ha di Freccia Verde

CitazioneWhat attracted you to Green Arrow?

Green Arrow seemed like a huge challenge.  As a kid, I loved the concept of Robin Hood, the guy that stole from the rich and gave to the poor. Robin Hood is popping up in modern parlance in articles about the Occupy Wall Street movement, which I am very sympathetic to.

But visually, Green Arrow is essentially an archaic character trying to function in a modern world.  His old outfit began to look quaint and silly, and yet giving him green armor just seems silly, it doesn't fit his status as a guy with absolutely no powers, nor his stealth methodology. It's not like his new costume functions like Batman's, in that it doesn't strike fear into foes. And his weaponry is also archaic. Arrows are cumbersome and useless in close combat. They can't do anything a gun can't do, except perhaps pin someone to a wall. So Green Arrow has paradoxes that, rather than be fun, are just kind of annoying.

And his history is convoluted and contradictory.  He's been both republican and democrat in his political sensibility. He's been both harshly preachy and a reckless playboy with seemingly no values. He's been old and young.

I must admit, when I first read his Wiki entry, I almost felt he was futile and doomed as a character.

So, I put him in my head and began carrying him around with me. For me, for Green Arrow to pull off his archaic look in a modern world he'd have to have tons of panache and hutzpah. I began to think more in terms of the swashbucklers.  He'd have to be impulsive and outrageous in attitude.  He'd have to not care one whit what anyone thought of him. He'd have to live by impulse and trust his inner moral compass to fuel his moves.

So, I when I wrote the trilogy that opens my run on the character, this is what I had in mind.

Politics have been a part of Green Arrow's past, including a couple of runs for the office of mayor (one of which he won). Neither time did Oliver disclose that he was Green Arrow, so I am wondering if, on a more general sense, you feel that any superhero can serve in public office without disclosing that and still effectively (and ethically) serve the people?

This is a good question, but I don't really have an answer for it.... I guess there are "real world" ethics and "superhero ethics" which are perhaps two different things...

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Azrael

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Clod

#70
oddio, la cover :sick:

We are called Cybermen. We were exactly like you once, but our cybernetic scientists realised that our race was getting weak. Our lifespan was getting shorter, so our scientists and doctors devised spare parts for our bodies until we could be almost completely replaced. Our brains are just like yours, except that certain weaknesses have been removed. Weaknesses like... emotions, pain. You will become like us. You will be upgraded.

Green Hankey

per me è bellissima la cover.

Comunque bel numero  :ahsisi:

Non è l'Ollie dei vecchi tempi, ma stiamo migliorando  :sisi:
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Azrael

THE Comic Vine Review by Tony 'G-Man' Guerrero



Green Arrow continues fighting on the streets and trying to keep up with his responsibilities at Q-Core. But when someone comes gunning for him, who is really the target?

Green Arrow has his time split between being the Emerald Archer as well as running Q-Core. With the arrival of Blood Rose, both Oliver Queen and Green Arrow are going to be busy.
The Good

Even though Green Arrow taking on members of the Street Knights (I don't like the name) was a simple fight, there's an element of intrigue there when something is discovered on one of the members. They may not be huge A-list villains for Green Arrow but the way things are handled is pretty interesting.

With the 'New 52,' we've seen a lot of the heroes now wearing armor of some sort. With Green Arrow, it makes sense for him to have some since he doesn't have superpowers. The addition of Q-Core makes sense in a way for him to get some tech-based arrows and weapons. Part of the fun is seeing what arrows he will use on his foe and I'd love to see more on what he has to use.

Dan Jurgens layouts with George Perez's finishes give the issue a nice feel. I don't really like Ollie's look but I do like the way everything else is drawn. Whether it's the details of Ollie wearing his business shirt untucked or detail on his arrows, it's a good look for the book.
The Bad

Q-Core is an interesting addition but I'm still having trouble accepting it with Green Arrow. After four issues, I should be used to this 'new' Green Arrow/Oliver Queen. There's also the obvious problem of his mask. Blood Rose is seen with a picture of Green Arrow before she comes in contact with him dressed as Ollie yet there is no recognition. She knows who he is but is unaware he's also Green Arrow. Yes, we're supposed to have a sense of disbelief. The domino mask isn't the best choice but with all the other updates, it's a little hard to swallow.
The Verdict

After four months and now Keith Giffen taking over the writing duties, I'm still not sold on this take for Green Arrow. The idea of Oliver having Q-Core to give him some tech to fight crime has potential but the times where he's sitting around in his office avoiding his responsibilities gives him too much of a slacker feel. There are some good fights here along with the mystery of the Street Knights actually has me a little curious as to who is behind them. I can't say I'm completely sold on Green Arrow yet but I'm starting to get used to this new direction.

3 Stelle su 5


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maricomics

Ho letto il numero 1 di questa serie, che delusione  :cry: attendevo il rilancio di GA uno dei miei preferiti, ma sia i disegni che sanno troppo di vecchio che la storia che spero che migliori ma il primo numero è stato di un piatto unico, questo è stato di sicuro il peggior numero 1.

Chi è più avanti mi sa dire se vale la pena continuarla ? se ci sono dei miglioramenti con il cambio ai testi ?

Buddy Baker

Basta, mi dichiaro sconfitto da questo nouvo GA!

Qualora dovesse riprendersi con la Nocenti o coi i successivi autori fatemi un fischio, altrimenti ci rivediamo al prossimo reboot!


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