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Meet Camazotz; the Ancient Maya 'Batman god' Worshiped 2,500 Years Ago — Curiosmos

Some 2,500 years ago, and even before DC Comics introduced us to Batman, the ancient Maya worshiped Camazotz, an ancient god that had the body of a person and the head of a bat.



There's plenty of evidence of such cases throughout history.

But did you know that thousands of years ago, the ancient Maya worshiped a god that had the body of a person and the head of a bat? The 'creature' had pointy ears and was referred to by the ancient Maya as Camazotz.

Curiously, that description may sound  awfully similar to a character most of us are familiar with, seeing him in movies, series, and comic strips.

His name is Batman.

Batman, not the only Bat Man
You guessed it.

Batman's origins can (sort of) be traced back to a long lost civilization that existed in modern-day Mexico.

Before the DC Comics 'invented' the Batman, there was Camazotz, a mysterious pre-Hispanic deity that symbolized night, death and sacrifice.

He was popular among the ancient Maya.

And his description is awfully similar to our modern-day Batman.

But there isn't really much about him on the internet.

In fact, most of the details describing Camazotz can be traced back to the Popol Vuh.

Origins
Camazotz or Camazot is a relatively unknown character from Mayan mythology. The ancient Mayan god is considered as the murderous bat god.

Representations Camazotz can be found in the museum of Copán, in Honduras although description about him can be found in a few Mayan codices as well.

The ancient deity was dubbed as a master of mysteries, life, and death.

Camazotz comes from two ancient Maya (K'iche ) words 'kame, which means "death", and sotz', which is translated as "bat".

The worship of Camazotz can be traced back to around 200 B.C. and it is believed to have started among the Zapotecs of Oaxaca, Mexico, who worshiped an anthropomorphic monster with the body of a man and the head of a bat.

The bat was associated with night, death and sacrifice.

Camazots eventually found his place among the pantheon of the Quiche, a Mayan tribe that lived in the jungles of what is now Guatemala and Honduras.

The K'iche quickly identified the bat-god with their god Zotzilaha Chamalcan, which is the god of fire.

Some scholars even believe that the myth surrounding Camazotzs went far beyond the land of the ancient Maya, as stories of similar beings spread across Guatemala, and as far as Brazil.

Featured
It was back in 2014 when Warner Brothers gathered as many as thirty artists for them to reinterpret the looks of Batman for the 75th anniversary.

There were quite a few results.

But one of them was a stunning piece made by Christian Pacheco, owner of a design agency in Yucatan. In fact, it was his examples that stood out the most.

With his piece, Pacheco reminded everyone, that DC Comics was not the first to actually have their very own Batman.

Pacheco's design gave a heads up to many people that the very first 'bat' man can be traced back to the ancient Maya, more than 2,500 years ago.

The Popol Vuh and Camazotz
If we take a look at the Popol Vuh we find a few descriptions of this mythical god.

The Popol Vuh, the book of the council 'or' book of the community', is a compilation of mythical, legendary and historical narratives of the K'iche; the Mayan people inhabiting modern-day Guatemala.

The book, of great historical and spiritual value, has been called Sacred Book or the Bible of the Maya Quiche.

In the Popol Vuh, Camazotz was a common name making reference to the bat-like monsters that the Mayan twin heroes Hunahpú and Ixbalanque stumbled across, during their trials in the underworld of Xibalbá.

Temples
It has been found that the Nahua horseshoe-shaped temples were dedicated to the worship of the bat god.

Their altars were made of pure gold and oriented towards the East.

It was believed that the bat god had power to cure any disease, but also power to cut the divine cord of life that unites the body to the soul.

The Nahua priests invoked the bat god when asking for health.


https://curiosmos.com/camazotz-the-ancient-maya-batman-god-worshiped-2500-years-ago/
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Guardiano della Notte

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ALL OF EXISTENCE SHALL BE MINE!

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Citazione di: Azrael il 23 Maggio 2019, 13:10:44
Meet Camazotz; the Ancient Maya 'Batman god' Worshiped 2,500 Years Ago — Curiosmos

Some 2,500 years ago, and even before DC Comics introduced us to Batman, the ancient Maya worshiped Camazotz, an ancient god that had the body of a person and the head of a bat.



There's plenty of evidence of such cases throughout history.

But did you know that thousands of years ago, the ancient Maya worshiped a god that had the body of a person and the head of a bat? The 'creature' had pointy ears and was referred to by the ancient Maya as Camazotz.

Curiously, that description may sound  awfully similar to a character most of us are familiar with, seeing him in movies, series, and comic strips.

His name is Batman.

Batman, not the only Bat Man
You guessed it.

Batman's origins can (sort of) be traced back to a long lost civilization that existed in modern-day Mexico.

Before the DC Comics 'invented' the Batman, there was Camazotz, a mysterious pre-Hispanic deity that symbolized night, death and sacrifice.

He was popular among the ancient Maya.

And his description is awfully similar to our modern-day Batman.

But there isn't really much about him on the internet.

In fact, most of the details describing Camazotz can be traced back to the Popol Vuh.

Origins
Camazotz or Camazot is a relatively unknown character from Mayan mythology. The ancient Mayan god is considered as the murderous bat god.

Representations Camazotz can be found in the museum of Copán, in Honduras although description about him can be found in a few Mayan codices as well.

The ancient deity was dubbed as a master of mysteries, life, and death.

Camazotz comes from two ancient Maya (K'iche ) words 'kame, which means "death", and sotz', which is translated as "bat".

The worship of Camazotz can be traced back to around 200 B.C. and it is believed to have started among the Zapotecs of Oaxaca, Mexico, who worshiped an anthropomorphic monster with the body of a man and the head of a bat.

The bat was associated with night, death and sacrifice.

Camazots eventually found his place among the pantheon of the Quiche, a Mayan tribe that lived in the jungles of what is now Guatemala and Honduras.

The K'iche quickly identified the bat-god with their god Zotzilaha Chamalcan, which is the god of fire.

Some scholars even believe that the myth surrounding Camazotzs went far beyond the land of the ancient Maya, as stories of similar beings spread across Guatemala, and as far as Brazil.

Featured
It was back in 2014 when Warner Brothers gathered as many as thirty artists for them to reinterpret the looks of Batman for the 75th anniversary.

There were quite a few results.

But one of them was a stunning piece made by Christian Pacheco, owner of a design agency in Yucatan. In fact, it was his examples that stood out the most.

With his piece, Pacheco reminded everyone, that DC Comics was not the first to actually have their very own Batman.

Pacheco's design gave a heads up to many people that the very first 'bat' man can be traced back to the ancient Maya, more than 2,500 years ago.

The Popol Vuh and Camazotz
If we take a look at the Popol Vuh we find a few descriptions of this mythical god.

The Popol Vuh, the book of the council 'or' book of the community', is a compilation of mythical, legendary and historical narratives of the K'iche; the Mayan people inhabiting modern-day Guatemala.

The book, of great historical and spiritual value, has been called Sacred Book or the Bible of the Maya Quiche.

In the Popol Vuh, Camazotz was a common name making reference to the bat-like monsters that the Mayan twin heroes Hunahpú and Ixbalanque stumbled across, during their trials in the underworld of Xibalbá.

Temples
It has been found that the Nahua horseshoe-shaped temples were dedicated to the worship of the bat god.

Their altars were made of pure gold and oriented towards the East.

It was believed that the bat god had power to cure any disease, but also power to cut the divine cord of life that unites the body to the soul.

The Nahua priests invoked the bat god when asking for health.


https://curiosmos.com/camazotz-the-ancient-maya-batman-god-worshiped-2500-years-ago/

:meta:

(era da tempo che speravo di usarla ancora)

Sirwade14

Ho ordinato tutti i volumi ma non ho ancora ricevuto "Il Tempo e l'uomo Pipistrello".
Ho letto fino a RIP (possedevo e ho già letto Crisi Finale).
Avete indicato nella guida il seguente ordine di lettura
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Batman & Son (contiene Batman 655-658 e 663-666)
Batman: The Black Glove (contiene Batman 667-669 e 672-675)
Batman RIP (contiene Batman 676-683)
Final Crisis (contiene Final Crisis 1-7)

Batman & Robin: Batman Reborn (contiene Batman & Robin 1-6)
Batman & Robin: Batman VS Robin (contiene Batman & Robin 7-12)
Batman: Time and the Batman (contiene Batman 700-703)
Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne (contiene la miniserie omonima di 6 numeri)
Batman & Robin: Batman must die! (contiene Batman & Robin 13-16 e Batman: The Return)
Batman Incorporated Vol.1 (contiene Batman Incorporated (2010-2011) #1-8 e Batman Incorporated: Leviathan Strikes (2011))
Batman Incorporated: Demon Star (contiene Batman Incorporated Vol.2 #0-6 (2013))
Batman Incorporated: Gotham's Most Wanted (contiene Batman Incorporated Vol.2 #7-13 e Batman Incorporated Special #1 (2013))
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Quindi potrei passare a leggere i Batman & Robin? Perchè allora "Il Tempo e l'uomo pipistrello" è pubblicato come "Vol.4" ?
Grazie
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!"

Professor Zoom

È un volume a parte che si ricollega a Crisi Finale, puoi leggerlo bene o male quando ti pare prima dell'ultimo volume di B&R (che è dove le trame si ricollegano tra loro).
Stesso discorso per Il Ritorno di Brucw Wayne.

Cosmonauta

Morrison sa tutto perchè ha parlato con gli alieni :batman:
I suoi due documentari che ho visto sono fantastici, sia per la visione che ha di alcune cose, sia per quello che dice che pare strambo, ma così strambo, che detto da lui finisci per crederci. Numero Uno!

Sirwade14

Citazione di: Professor Zoom il 25 Maggio 2019, 10:18:20
È un volume a parte che si ricollega a Crisi Finale, puoi leggerlo bene o male quando ti pare prima dell'ultimo volume di B&R (che è dove le trame si ricollegano tra loro).
Stesso discorso per Il Ritorno di Brucw Wayne.
Assurdo... appena arrivato dopo quasi 3 settimane...[emoji23]

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"Oh, you think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!"

Professor Zoom

Ah... beh... buona lettura! :clap:

Sirwade14

"Oh, you think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!"

eddiekrueger

Citazione di: Cosmonauta il 25 Maggio 2019, 11:39:11
Morrison sa tutto perchè ha parlato con gli alieni :batman:
I suoi due documentari che ho visto sono fantastici, sia per la visione che ha di alcune cose, sia per quello che dice che pare strambo, ma così strambo, che detto da lui finisci per crederci. Numero Uno!
Conosco Talking with gods. L'altro qual è?

Professor Zoom

Non è propriamente un documentario, ma c'è una sua conferenza in cui parla di alcune delle cose citate da Cosmonauta:

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Magari si riferiva a questo.

Sirwade14

Mi sta piacendo. Non capisco perchè sono stato titubante a raccoglierli. Forse un suggerimento sbagliato. Le variant incluse sono interessanti. Ma finisco questo ciclo e faccio una pausa manga. [emoji16]

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"Oh, you think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!"